And this is important. If you dont want to be a member at Watermark you dont have to be.Read more , There is a difference between positional authority and spiritual authority. Watermark Community Church is an elder-led congregation. And Elder Kyle Thompson tearfully described how God had used Wagner to disciple and grow and to model for me what faithfulness looks like more than anybody else, period., Elder Mickey Friedrich then urged the church not to try and judge whose version of events is right or wrong. Perfectly said Scottie. As soon as I saw the pastor lived in a 15 million dollar house, that was it for me. that is, if we keep Jesus Christ as part of the equation, with an understanding that more is incumbent on leaders than on others. I started to plan how to move near Plano so I could attend Watermark Plano. One of the core values of the community groups is Live Authentically, which they define as being completely honest with one anotherthis means giving others permission to know the real you by sharing authentically. This includes sharing your sins, struggles, along with your entire life story, potentially to a room full of complete strangers. We have ministry partners with boots on the ground, helping to love and serve others by meeting their immediate physical and spiritual needs. Perhaps its appropriate for an elder who retired after many years of exemplary service and is available on occasion to give counsel. I asked Susan if she wouldnt mind answering a few questions for this post, which she was happy to do. All of the years I attended Kanakuk I had awesome and incredible counselors except for Todd. agreed. Best wishes to the church members, though. In our case, it is because those in leadership are held to a higher standard; more is expected of them in terms of their beliefs and practice. You CANNOT, however, attempt to withdraw membership to avoid church discipline. If not? If you got the impression I was disingenuous or was minimizing someones hurt please forgive me.
Prestonwood Baptist also made the list (top 20) and its nowhere near a cult.. Agreed. Small group of meeting once a week. Please would you please explain a bit more about this take on Christs death. Prestonwood Baptist also made the list (top 20) and its nowhere near a cult. I was wrong and truly apologize. There is so much judgement on here it has to hurt the heart of God. If by community you mean confessing every single sin in your life to a group of virtual strangers, disclosing your personal financial information, and seeking the approval of the group to change jobs, buy a house, start a family then no,Read more , Christian community can have so many different levels, and not everyone is seeking the same depth in all relationships. The teaching statement wasnt explained to me in the membership process. Move away 2.Join another (approved) church 3. Watermark's Church Contract This was the same concept as we moved on to adult Sunday school. Every argument you put forth seems to be based on your subjective opinion based on your speculation, assumption, and judgement.. Watermark encourages people to confess their sins to one another and to admonish faithfully but thats because thats what the Bible tells us to do as believers.. I believe this man would help many, I can say that without shadow of doubt. Another requirement for membership is that you find an area in which to serve in the church. Watermark was founded in November 7, 1999 with an outward-focused ministry that sought to minister to "the unchurched, dechurched, dead-churched and unmoved." [1] Watermark averages about 9,000 weekly attendants. He hides behind the church to bully people whether in the church or outside. Its where two or more are gathered not where two or more thousands are gathered. I take at face value Susan has hurt and I feel compassion for her. You are right, being up front about it is important. Kind of smarmy too., You use some strong name calling, words I have however heard Todd Wagner say from the pulpit if youre not comfortable giving here thats ok, please give somewhere meaningful to you. Not to mention that even if the words are perfect its up to the listeners as to how they interpret it. Thats for God to reveal or conceal.. And, there was zero pressure from church leadership to do so. At this link, you will find lots of information about how their community groups operate. If the answer or NONE then you need to look at your own lives and see if correction is needed. Therefore, I testify to you this day that I am innocent of the blood of all men. The building and nine acres of land located in an area of Dallas that has a predominant minority population were purchased by the evangelical church for $211,000, according to a government document. It is a long process to leave unless you just dont fill out the yearly form. Confession, of course! To demand that a victim produce evidence is a form of revictimization. Over the years, Wagner has been dogged by allegations of spiritual abuse published on a blog called No Eden Elsewhere. 4774 sq ft house. Both of these practices are, in my opinion, unhealthy. If you dont fill out the form you can leave easy if your just quiet. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? Its extremely worrisome that they feel they have to hide and be afraid of what Watermark Church may say or do in response to them telling the truth about their abuse. Im confident Todd wagner has done more to help people than all commenters combined. They have brought a civil lawsuit against the Church of Scientology for stalking and intimidation that occurred after they reported their assaults to the police. If you were not From Highland Park or University Park Todd Had no use for you. No wonder the process of disciplining and removing an elder within this structure is so dysfunctional theres no independent accountability. I went back several times others preached but werent as good holding an audiences attention as Todd Wagner and the full content with historical and life referces and quoting scripture just wasnt there like Todd Wagner.. then they said Watermark Plano was becoming its own church. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Theyre not only going to write you off but theyll make sure your entire community group does too.Read more , [] of absence in September 2020 to work on prideful sin that was increasingly becoming visible to church members. Hes definitely not perfect, but he is a good and Godly man who preached the gospel boldly and consistently. If you dont want to share about your finances you dont have to. No One Knows. that the elder board was ready to go in Todds leadership direction. I have NEVER been asked to, let alone forced, to disclose financial information. If I was a member of this church my motivation for remaining or leaving would be almost entirely based upon trying to figure out what happened in an effort to understand if the leadership is healthy or unhealthy. People are insecure, confused, listen to gossip,Read more . Our mission is to Love God, Love People, and Serve the World. Its gotten popular which makes me suspect. Im not taking about prosperity- Many churches won't consider an openly gay man or woman for the clergy. One is very wealthy and likely the one who lives in the house you mentioned. Watermark exists to be and make more fully devoted followers of Christ, looking to God's Word as our only authority, conscience and guide. Author: this is unequivocally WRONG. so much pretense. I would be ok disclosing financial information to my community group. Todd Wagner, the embattled pastor of Watermark Church, a Dallas multisite megachurch with a pre-pandemic congregation of 20,000 people, has resigned his position as senior pastor and elder. I suppose you think you can do better than they? Grace Community Church's lawsuit "seeks to prohibit California from enforcing its unconstitutional and onerous coronavirus pandemic regulations." Link copied Aug. 14, 2020, 2:58 PM UTC According to the membership covenant, a member is not free to leave the church, but must formally withdraw membership under one of three acceptable circumstances: 1. When I watched his stepping back/pride/ sin talk, I wanted to either vomit or laugh out loud.. Create new account. on The Aftermath: Stories from Former Watermark Church Members, Youth Volunteer at The Village Church Confesses to Sexual Abuse of Minors. Came off as legalistic trolling. I think you need to expand on the 4B Spiritual Assessment forms. Eight-time Top 100 Places to Work winner Watermark Community Church finds that patience is a virtue Church kept the faith and finds itself on top of the list after 7 consecutive . * For What? I dont know if I am over-reacting when Todd made a off the cuff remark about taking his wife some where last week where she could be warm. Yeah, I glanced at it. I was blessed to attend Kanakuk for years and years. You are correct. What you need to know about Church Membership Covenants., The Aftermath: Stories from Former Watermark Church Members, The Aftermath Part II: Stories from Former Watermark Church Members, Family Ties: How Watermark Community Church is Alienating Families. Where are you getting this information? May 28, 2006 — -- A female member of the Watermark Community Church, . Watermark is a community of faithful, creative, authentic Christ-followers who are united in one purpose: to be and make disciples of Jesus. Before you Sign. Ill meet you. Really miss your sermons and spirit led preaching. i watched the video dont know how i got as far as i did i had to turn it off. If the leaders deem you unworthy of their support due to pride or sin struggle reasons, they will absolutely unequivocally unabashedly and with zero conscience or compassion, write you off. Church leaders concealed sexual abuse of young children, lawsuits allege. BUT are now returned to And thanks for the word smarmy. Todd portrays it all as a divine God told me sort of thing. Wagner should have sold the home and elected to live a less extravagant neighborhood (Highland Park). I dont have an extensive history with Wagner but several of my closest friends say that they saw this same controlling, egotistic behavior back in the 1990s when he came to Dallas to lead a high school group called K Life. Watermark Family, Throughout the fall, we have shared that, as an Elder team, we have focused on three main priorities: Strengthening our leadership team Reengaging our members in the life and ministry of the church Equipping our body for a changing world even so, i think its patently obvious that living as the 1% by 1st world standards, even in part, is lavish by any and all standards. Darren, I was thinking about this a little more think about the language you use explaining how elders are held to a higher standard doctrinally speaking. I dont know what the tax rate is near Watermark but I doubt I could afford just the taxes & insurance on that house. Their countenances in the video departure statements appear to be quite different. I will never forget the screams of desperation and loss I felt as a young Christian woman. But, we ALL should be. Todd was my counselor at Kanakuk Camps for a summer. I went through the Re:Engage program twice early in its development. Definitely they are important to Christian theology, but they fall within a spectrum of orthodox third-rank doctrines. In layman's terms, that means all decisions concerning the governance of the church are made by the elders, not by the members. Watermark Church is a popular, non-denominational church in the Dallas area which has about 11,000 members. Watermark Community Church review: fraud. He confirmed Leventhals statement that the two are at peace and are in community together.. Amazing indeed! He had no recollection of ever having seen or met you before because he was so self absorbed. but unfortunately christian powerbrokers have made christianity about things other than Jesus Christ. So I canceled my move. To donate, Pastor of Dallas Megachurch Dogged by Allegations of Spiritual Abuse Announces Hes Taking a Break, https://www.wadeburleson.org/2015/05/five-reasons-to-say-no-to-church.html, Vineyard Pastor Resigns, Wont Cooperate With Probe Into Sons Alleged Misconduct. The reason for this is because, as an elder, he will be responsible for teaching others. Different guys. Hello, Scottie. Evangelical Church. I was a messed up kid at that time and Todd was the worst counselor ever. Tim The information is on Watermark Churchs website: Voluntary Member Termination: Members who move from the local area, change churches, or no longer meet the requirements for active Membership may be removed from Watermark Membership.. Mind Games The Bizarre & Controling Culture of Spiritual authority has nothing to do with title, education, or rhetorical ability (2 Cor 10-13). Once youve signed your life over to them, you must either form your own community group or go through the process of being placed in one. TODD WAGNER SURELY LED ALOT OF PEOPLE TO CHRIST. Its clear as mud. Scripture also says live your neighbor as yourself.folks many of you here have already missed that mark. There is clearly some issues, but isnt Lord bug enough to handle it, even at the worst of Todd missed the boat? And then they agree to work on the same board? He is a gifted teacher and speaker and could have made so much more money over the years with the opportunities he was given, but he didnt take them. At the beginning of each year our membership goes to zero. If by community you mean meeting with like-minded individuals to foster friendships & develop relationships then great. I dont think so. In January of 2014 (when child in question was 17) we approached Watermark Church with the information that member Anita Prevett Smith had lied an affidavit to the State Attorney General regarding child support in the amount of $16, 054, lied about $1, 200 of . I have never met so many people using the term spiritual abuse asRead more , Concern, Who are you to judge!? -, Watermark Community Church has believers SIGN Mickey makes it sound like the decision for Todd to resign was something weve arrived at due to events. When this article was written, The announcement was captured on video and posted online with a statement from the elders. There are no congregational votes nor do individual members have a 'say' in how things are handled. Its ridiculous to give issue for a house he lives in, that he himself didnt purchase. He said at the time that he was not guilty of disqualifying sin like sexual immorality, financial misconduct, or foul languagesomething Wagner reiterated when he announced his resignation. Christian Church. In our church, this is clearly laid out during the membership process. On the April 8, 2019 episode of WordsfromWags, a website that features videos from Watermark Church senior pastor Todd Wagner addressing various issues, the topic of the day was Is Watermark Church a Cult? As the CG leader, I went first. Im saying that outta love and also saying it truly saddens me to see many of you have hardened your hearts. Ashley Ruiz alleges in a lawsuit that a member of the International Churches of Christ sexually molested her when she was . Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Im sorry to hear of judgement that has been passed around. On the cult thing: LIsten to this longer presentation from a high school ministry event. When I was 17, I started attending church regularly with my boyfriend (now husband) in high school, and we would go to Sunday School. Yes WM hides abusers and minimizes victims. Grace Community Church will be paid $800,000 by Los Angeles County and the state of California after reaching a legal settlement to a lawsuit over COVID-19 restrictions in churches. Which by the way, most of north Dallas (including Lake Highlands) has experienced the same level of appreciation. By our measure our savior Jesus was a total and complete failure. He first goes into the definition of the word cult which in latin is the word cultus, defined as to inhabit, dwell; to cultivate. Seems like theres a lot of hurting people with a lot to hide on this thread. Positional authority deals with executing responsibilities within an organization, like a general in an army, the president of bank, or the pastor of a church. The level of absurdity is a bit high here Im a member, not once have I been asked to fork out my money, not once have I been forced to makeRead more . Jackson Elliott contributed to this report. Leventhal doesnt seem very interested in this whole thing Wagner appears attentive during Leventhals speech but Leventhal seems stand-offish toward Wagner. Todd loves and worships money and attention. Better to have one doctrinal statement that unites both members and elders in my opinion. We know a number of people who attend Watermark due to our 10 year stay in dallas. As you should be. Wagner said he is excited about what God is going to do at the church in its next season and urged the congregation to obey their leaders. Why do you throw a stone (more likely without looking at yourselves first). They were not giving Him a standing ovation. The over-humility seems fake, like false humility. Unsure why he is getting criticized for living in a house that is experiencing uber appreciation b/c of the school district it resides in. Where appropriate, upon request,. business Top 100. Having community is not the issue its how Watermark DEFINES community. 25 years ago, I found myself getting angry atRead more , I was a WM member until I realized that if you fail their morality assessment and they decide you have a pride issue, not a desperate, destitute, homeless or depression issue.. That is one huge cult. Thanks for the reply. Aside from the fact that it was gifted to him (alarming at the very least) it shows poor stewardship and lack of humility on Wagners part. Watermark Churchs membership process first requires that you sign themembership covenant, which oddly enough, you can do online. Case Summary. To donate, click here. There are many issues at Watermark. It shocks me how much fear this church has put inside of the people who dared leave it. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account. And in Ecclesiastes 12:14, For God will bring every deedRead more , I would be curious to know if you are ok with disclosing all of your financial information to your community group and seeking their approval on life decisions? In these community groups you are enmeshing your entire life into the church. It is very helpful and lets us plan financially well. You guys can rip apart our church and Todd all you want, but I know him, and you wont find a man with more of a heart of gold than him. XPastor recommends readers take special note of the resources provided by Watermark about the issue of Care and Correction. Under the veil of confession, it was all about him. They did create it. A former member of Shekinah Church, who lost a lawsuit against Shinn in which she alleged he swindled her out of $4 million, has issued a dire warning for those who have been lured into the. In my next post Ill share another story from another former-Watermark member. No its not. Both Wagner and Leventhal will remain at Watermark as elders emeritus. Ive never heard of nor attended a church with such a position. What does all white and all males have to do absolutely anything with regard to this situation? 4774 square feet also poor stewardship unless hes raising 8 kids or something. Todd had 6 children living at home at the time he was gifted the home. Gateway Church. So you think women are getting a little uppity and having ideas above their station?. The Porch. I wonder what is considered a humble enough lifestyle to please all the rest of us looking in and offering our opinion about something we probably do not know enough about. Problem with the churches these days is many in congregation will do same thing as Judas did, deny !! We are talking about a CHURCH here, not the mafia. Theyre all using so much jargon that its hard to figure out what any of it actually means. You may be thinking of a different Todd Wagner, who is a longtime partner of Mark Cuban. or. They refuse to be honest so they can make a come back in a year or two. Just because you have not experienced or witnessed the things that happened to the person who told their story that I featured in this post, does not mean those things did not happen. Im Jesus name. It also lists Fellowship Church and Village Church in its top 10 on cults (Village likely is, Fellowship is more of a personality cult centered around Ed), strangely Gateway Church isnt listed (and several people think it may be more of a personality cult than Watermark or Village). Just because you have never been abused in the way these people have, does not negate that they were. As stated above, dont confuse Todd Wagner the billionaire with Todd Wagner the pastor though Todd Wagner the pastor does live in a home valued between 1 and 2 million dollars. Thanks for sharing. In my opinion, its best to have the teaching statement serve as the unifying statement that covers both members and elders, so that those who attend and who are working through their beliefs dont prematurely sign a membership covenant that in reality places them under the pastoral authority of elders who adhere to the teaching statement. The first being last and the last being first is not how most Christians think. This is maybe a time for correction for Todd as it seems (2 Tim 3:16-17) havent you ever done anything wrong? Not now. Awaken Conference 2021. Still havent found a church I like since. This is a quality and important post. Watermark Video: Women's Channel 8y ago no one was threatening him he deliberately chose to live as the 1%, say yes & accept it, move in and make it his home. however, since evangelical leaders have redefined gossip to mean dont rock the boat to protect their power, careers, and revenue, can you explain what you mean by gossip? Since November, it appears two other Watermark elders have left the original board of six menBrian Buchek and Beaut Fournet. Pastors often receive the most judgement and its rarely considered that they likely face the most spiritual warfare. You are way off base. In the video, Wagner said that the clarity to step down was not hasty, adding that the discernment process had started a year ago. Most people in the U.S. have a lavish lifestyle compared to most believers around the world. Spiritual authority influences others toward Gods purposes. Messages; The house was gifted to him by an extremely successful member of the church. First and foremost- this is a season that God is shaking things up. TWW last left Wagner on leave due to pride in Todd Wagner, the Controversial Pastor of Watermark Church, Steps Away *for a Season. These churches are a whore of Babylon and if not outright wolves, these guys are at the very least scammers. Does anyone know if the Re:Engage marriage program that Watermark started is worthwhile? I just loved his style of preaching. AGAIN, I have absolutely NO proof and its pure speculation. If I had to guess the Sr Pastor Todd agreed to leave if the concerned pastor Steve agreed to resign. I dont mean to discredit anyones experience, but mine overall has been encouraging, and yes, challenging, but biblically sound. This would be Cabo and in the middle of the worst weather tragedies that Dallas has seen in decades. When I received the email from *Susan (pseudonym), a former Watermark Church member, she wrote, I am not the only former Watermarker out there who is nervous to speak up about this organization, because I refuse to call them a church.. I think you may have missed a decimal point according to the link in the post his house (verified to be the correct Todd Wagner) was a little over $1.5 million as of 2019. John Doe's attorney says his client is now considering a civil lawsuit against the church for slander.7 If you want to remove watermark in Church Membership without any confusion, DocHub is a perfect tool for such duties. Wagner was tearful during his speech in the video Sunday. Also resigned is David Leventhal, an elder and teaching pastor at Watermark, who said he had lost trust in Wagner's leadership. Our online editing platform simplifies the process for any action you may want to do with Church Membership. i expect someone who represents Jesus Christ in a leadership capacity to live in accordance to Jesus message on money and wealth. Sounds like the perfect target for attack, I was looking at Watermarks governance section on its website and two things stuck out to me: 1) they have 2 doctrinal statements, one for members and one for elders and 2) they are Elder-Rule, Elder-Led. Set up and configure your eSignature workflows the way you want them. 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