Thank you @LittleWhiteMouse. The victory snapped a three-game losing streak and was only the third in February following the upset of the Tennessee Volunteers to open the month along with a California's protection scheme is perfectly adequate for a tier VII battleship. Florida's consumables are a little weird. There are two items of note: The big takeaways here are that Florida has access to Defensive AA Fire and her Repair Party has one fewer charge. Most of her teeth come from her 40mm Bofors and 20mm Oerlikons, barring a CV being gracious enough to face-plant into a flak-cloud. These do not survive long under HE fire and even cursory smattering of HE rounds will quickly reduce the effectiveness of her AA and open her up to the potential of air-attack. This exaggerated manoeuvre bleeds speed (to say nothing of changing her heading and possibly navigating away from battle), further slowing her already ponderous pace. Top Speed: 27 knotsTurning Radius: 760mRudder Shift Time: 15.4 seconds4/4 Engine Speed Rate of Turn: 4.1/s. This would have made her functionally as fast as Nagato under manoeuvres. Make IJN CV's actually historical, there are a number of options because while personally I'd restrictattack planes to the bombs they actually carried being HE, the standard torps and/or SAP DB's could be swapped out for Level Bombing AP (800 kg) bombs or Level Bombing carpet bombers (cause IJN TB's could and did do that kind of stuff). VERDICT: Pretty darned good for raw concealment values, though she struggles to spot stuff on her own. It's too bad she doesn't have the agility to make better use of this trait. She would have felt immediately tankier but still vulnerable to higher tiered ships. Please be aware that her performance may change in the future. California is a ship without game play identity. Unfortunately she can't really take advantage as well as another battleship might because of her slowness. But given CA's epic history, it does irritate me to see so much love lavished on their napkinwaffe RU BB and KM CV lines, while CA gets this treatment. She doesn't have a nigh-impervious citadel like Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. In Florida, life is good. This is why I prefer Lyon over them, but Gnei/Sharn are quite good for Narai too. Though they would have to actually work on balancing CV's (a lot of ordnance damage needs to come down, AA needs to be fixed/balanced, plane regen/hanger needs to be worked on, etc) and bring back odd tiers before we get to that. Take this review lightly. WHEN: Monday, Feb. 27, 7 p.m. The following is a review of California, the tier VII American battleship. This ship has been provided to me by Wargaming for evaluation purposes - The best that can be said is that California won't be high on the enemy aircraft's priority list. Also, thanks for saving me from buying this ship thinking it would be good. Tip from Donald L. Tucker Center is at 7 p.m. Florida's great range (especially when upgraded and modified with her Spotter Aircraft consumable) can work against her here, especially with those enterprising shots in the early stages of a match as everyone's deploying. While it can be super-tempting to try your luck against targets spotted early by your own lolibotes or Just Dodge simulators, you can all but guarantee you'll be spotted in return when you pull the trigger. With nothing else to shoot at, you can bet that every battleship on the enemy team that can draw bead on you will take a shot and given Florida's super-squish citadel, bad things will happen if they've got the range. Keep in mind that Florida's rudder is terrible so it's not like she dodges well. This is definitely a risk-reward element at play here, so be careful. Despite constant suggestions to give her improved accuracy and/or range on her secondaries, Wargaming wouldn't budge on keeping them standardized. Oh well, missed opportunities. Most, if not all,also need their alpha nerfed slightly so they aren't deleting cruisers quite the same way they are now (enough that basically instead of say 2 citadels and 4 overpens to destroy a cruiser you'd need 2-3 of those overpens to be solid hits). There's lots of ways they could have gone about it, though I think the most elegant solution would have been to give her 32mm structural plate on her bow, stern, deck and upper hull, akin to a tier VIII battleship. Uses the improved battlecruiser dispersion instead of that of American battleships. If I can help others avoid that, I will. Over on the defensive end, the Panthers Picking her up and farming some damage is pretty easy. These reviews have significant amounts of data and stats, plenty to draw your own conclusions. Florida's secondaries are too short ranged to be worth specializing into. They also lack the accuracy buff that makes Massachusetts and Georgia such units. These twin factors are enough to discourage anyone from spending skills or upgrade slots on them, to say nothing of Florida's durability issues (which I will [edited] about at length below).. In their past 10 I was curious about this ship as i really love playing Arizona. I love playing Arizona but i won't pay to have it at tier 7. This doesn't look like Landing citadel hits against enemy battleships tends to fall off at ranges over 14km or so, but you should still be able to land penetrating hits through most belts you'll encounter. Most of those nice, tight groups are gonna miss anyways. All of Arizona's decks are 26mm). That just makes her easy meat for enterprising lolibotes. Florida Gov. This screenshot makes me sad. Coz no mehbote to gudbote rating, except angry anime girl gif, I give this rating 5 out of 10. Shells which fuse inside this bulge but outside of the hull spaces underneath result in zero damage penetrations. The only thing to watch out for is if one your DD/CL uses smoke and hide all other ships, MO will target you and you don't want that with Florida's armor. Once engaged at medium-range, there's really not much this ship can do about it short of trying to fight her way out. How likely your shells are to do damage if they do hit. You're not reinventing the wheel with Florida. Take the usual battleship survivability build. It's boring but it works. For variety's sake, you can swap out Priority Target and Expert Marksman for your tier 1 and tier 2 skills of choice. Some good alternatives are Expert Loader, Jack of All Trades and High Alert. Expert Loader in particular is a very good choice. For me, Lyon is the best BB for Narai, Ashitaka being the second, due to their speed and DPM. The horrible fire arcs on California's guns will necessitate more manoeuvring to swing out her guns and then duck back which will only ensure she's stuck on the lower end of this speed. The moneyline odds say Florida has a 62.3% chance of winning this game. Something not really mentioned is her torpedo protection, though probably not needed due to her low HP. That 26% really doesn't amount to much as even a single torpedo from any of the ships you face there will hurt, especially if it hits an unprotected spot. You will need to avoid being torpedoed with her much more than any other BB. A salvo from the Campbeltown will cripple you, even if it all goes into the torpedo belt. Eat a salvo from the Farragut, and you are going to be in very bad shape. A salvo from Gallant will pretty much end your run. If either Farragut or Gallant hit you with a full (both launchers) salvo, your run is over, even at 100%. Her stern is made up of composite layers of armour beneath the 26mm outer shell in a similar vein to Giulio Cesare's bow. Fair enough. Granted I have California too (mostly due to 1. Historical Ship and 2. Native Californian) but she is a slow girl relegated to sitting In battle, targets are moving at different angles and speeds which makes any reasonable evaluation exceedingly difficult unless there is a tremendous change in performance. And another premium ship to skip, even Zoup has a different opinion. I wish this could have meant more than it does. Wargaming knows it too. The 0.1 sigma difference is imperceptible in game play -- you couldn't tell the difference if you tried. WebThe water temperatures differ in California vs Florida beaches because of the different climates. However, the premium standards Arizona, West Virginia 1941 and now California, all lack this boost. Catch the excitement and bet with Tipico! To the best of my knowledge, the statistics discussed in this article are current as of patch 0.9.5.1. They need to get rid of that junk mod they added that makes it all torps are spotted at 1.8 km cause especially against slower torps, like USN's, there's almost no excuse to not dodge torps if you take it. If you're trying to get from A to B as fast as possible, you're not going to want to touch your rudder. against a destroyer at stupid-close ranges. But against any other target, her HE is just found wanting. The tragic and horrific June 24 collapse of the Surfside Champlain Towers notwithstanding, the purplish-red sunshine state is dynamic, diverse, In terms of pricing, Legoland Florida is slightly cheaper than Legoland California. In a way I'm glad there's not a ship named after my home state they can give this sort of treatment to. WHEN: Monday, Feb. 27, 7 p.m. As a Californian and a player whose been as eager to sink my teeth into some California play as I would be a good fish taco, this review of what the ship is about is akin to finding a brown layer of over ripened avocado in that taco and being fearful it might actually be a cream of cow pie spread. Im gonna judge based on the review its probably a Mehbote. Mileage probably determined on if you want a premium USN BB for Narai or not. I have spent a TON! Really highlights the value of crossing the T - which, of course, no one doesbecause it doesnt work in WoWS. Base/Minimum Surface Detection: 13.5km / 11.79kmBase/Minimum Air Detection Range: 9.69km/ 8.72kmDetection Range When Firing in Smoke: 11.71km. Great work . as usual. Thank you @LittleWhiteMouse. The bot was without camouflage. However, she has enough problems already without considering CV strikes. Live stream California vs. Florida State on fuboTV: Start with a 7-day free trial! I just came to read another review by LWM, and do not have Florida, but I have been farming in Narai since other farming OPs were taken down. Altho You need to play a total of 20 battles to post in this section. Irrelevant trivia time. There is a 16mm hidden plate dividing the upper and lower parts of Florida's citadel. The line of it can be found between her 285mm upper belt the 213mm of her lower belt. Bet now! Florida man, Florida man Guess the tune. The following is a review of USS Florida, the tier VII American premium battleship. I did not pay fo Some places in Florida have been ranked 8% Florida's artificial fragility instead comes from three sources. The most influential of these is her citadel placement and geometry. Any battleship with her citadel sitting high over the waterline and abutting against the ship's exterior has a big ol' weakspot that's pretty easy to exploit. That, in of itself, isn't enough to damn a ship. For example, Soviet battleships all share this weak point, but many (if not most) of them are considered super-tanky. Therein lies Florida's second weakness: she lacks any form of extended armour to assist with shattering HE shells and ricocheting incoming AP rounds. While her amidships deck is a respectable 37mm, her butt, snoot and upper hull are all highly vulnerable. 25mm and 26mm armour are easily over-matched by the oh-so commonplace 380mm+ AP shells found at this tier. This armour similarly doesn't hold up against HE spam from cruisers and some destroyers. Thus Florida is much more limited when it comes to tanking incoming rounds. She can bounce 356mm armed battleships throwing AP in her face for days but angle improperly or test your luck against larger caliber guns and she goes down in a hurry. Florida basketball got back on the winning track on Tuesday night with a 77-67 win over the Georgia Bulldogs on the road in the penultimate regular-season game for the Gators. Look at this chungus. Sadly, Florida's HE are lacking. Their modest damage per-shell and slow reload might not be such a bad handicap if their fire chance was better, but her fire chance per shell is horrible. The 22% value she's shackled with is downright painful for such a slow rate of fire. Getting one permanent fire to burn is a feat, never mind doubling up. Her HE performance is so bad that I would happily recommend sticking with AP spam if it weren't for the aforementioned issue with angled and higher-tiered targets. It's stupid-important to be patient with your shots. Look for opportune targets where you can maximize her AP efficiency. You don't want to have to start spamming HE. Similarly, you don't want to force encounters where this is your sole option. Florida doesn't have the armour or hit points to facilitate trades against same-tier (or even tier VI) opponents. Blapping a full broadside of HE into an enterprising lolibote is hilarious, don't get me wrong -- her improved accuracy means that she easily can land four to six shells (or more!) The Napoli is based on a preliminary design from Ansaldo for the Soviet Project 22 Heavy cruiser. And I mean that in the same way I tell my significant other that "it's fine" when things are clearly not. It's all of the little things which add up to a bad experience for me. If you asked me to point at the one thing that bugs me the most about them, I'd probably tell you it's the 4/s gun traverse, which seems stupid to complain about given all of the other issues. However, I think that this quibble illustrates my beef with Florida's gunnery as a whole. Her slow turret traverse is just that "one more thing" that feels off about this ship. No matter her advantages, there's always a big ol' butt attached. By As good as California's lateral protection is, her big weak spot is her bow. In theory, California has some pretty good AP damage output. I fear that these buffs will blindside people to what is nothing more than an already existing tier VI premium with a tier VII price tag. I've sorted these by the formula of [ AA dps x { range - 1km} ]. It's not a perfect system but it does weight heavier, longer-ranged firepower over masses of short-ranged defence. The moneyline odds say Florida has a 62.3% chance of winning this game. The totals have gone OVER in 7 of Queens' 11 last games at home. The only Florida Ive seen in Narai was deleted 3 minutes in somehow. Arizona's weapons are amazing at tier VI. They could have just as easily remained a footnote in the war, left behind by fate. There should be no surprises for anyone here. But so far CV's under the rework have mostly lacked that and are a farce. Pow Wows In Your State Pow Wows in California Redbird's 21st Children of Many Colors Intertribal Pow Wow 2023 Jun 2 - Jun 4, 2023 - Oxnard CA The Rattlers have not entered a game this season with longer moneyline odds Good concealment with a surface detection as low as 11.8km. She is to Arizona what Alabama is to Massachusetts & North Carolina-- entirely forgettable and an unfortunate waste of money for worse game play. Florida is an abomination. Arizona is "long ranged" for a tier VI battleship once you install Gun Fire Control System Modification 1, so you largely duplicate California's schtick there too. Ron DeSantis exacts punishment, takes over Disney district on eve of book launch. Based on this contests moneyline, Southern has an implied win probability of 76.2%. The Roma is performing fairly well compared to other tier 8 BB's and she is far from the strongest with some incredibly glaring weaknesses. Skill Floor: Simple / Casual / CHALLENGING / DifficultSkill Ceiling: Low / Moderate / HIGH / Difficult. While California does have some minor improvements over Arizona, they are (in my opinion) inconsequential. California is a beautiful port queen that doesn't live up to her fantastic history. I want to head off any impulse purchases and warn players that they're not getting a ship worthy of California's name. Summary so far: You're buying a longer-ranged Arizona. Despite their outdated designs, they went on to not only find a role in the fast-modernizing US Navy but they went on to engage triumphantly in one of the final battleship surface actions in history. They provide the same bonuses and are merely a cosmetic swap. No, she isn't. Alright, that's enough fussing over what is little more than a curiosity. Let's get onto the meat of the matter. It could be worse, I suppose. 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